Unsigned Metal Death Black Doom
Login | | Register Search |

All times are UTC + 1 hour

I see you aren't signed in!

If you have an account please sign in.

If you haven't got an account please sign up! It takes 2 minutes to join this metal community!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:25 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830
The Worldly Observations of Roy Harper

Image

Loved and dismissed in equal measure, he had been around setting his poetry and thoughts and philosophy to the strums of an acoustic since the mid 60s. I first started this post in the Beerman Arm's thread after a few stiff pints of 7% bitter, but I think he deserves his own mention after a lifetime of doing it his way.

Harper was born in the Manchester, England. His mother died at birth and he was raised in Blackpool by his father and step-mother, whose Jehovah's Witness beliefs eventually alienated him. Harper's anti-religious views would later become a familiar theme in his music.

He Left school at 15, unwisely joined the Royal Air Force and then faked madness to get out again. Ironically he really was to suffer from mental illness later in his life.

Harper in the 60s

Sophisticated Beggar (1966), 9/10
Come Out Fighting Ghengis Smith (1968), 7.5/10
Folkjokeopus (1969), between 7/10 and 10/10

1966's The Sophisticated Beggar, was his first album. It's really sung poetry set to an acoustic guitar.

The Sophisticated Beggar, 1966

I'm just a sophisticated beggar living underneath your summer day
Counting all my blessings as I'm counting all the money I've accumulated on my way
I don't want your plastic Gods, Tin-pot religions and silly ideas. All I want is your money
I listen to you but I know you have nothing to say
I'm just a sophisticated beggar living underneath your summer day

I'm an emancipated firework exploding on your busy street
Strumming my guitar as you pass in your car always trying to knock me clean off my feet
I don't care if you own the whole world and the stars in the sky, or a heavenly body
You're wasting your time if it's only that that you're trying to convey
'because I'm just a sophisticated beggar living underneath your summer day

I'm an emaciated hipster drinking dreams and eating consciousness
Standing in the gutter in the middle of a splutter hiding horrors underneath my largesse
I'd be hoarse for a million years trying to rescue my brain from the flood of my mind
And all that I need, seems to me, to be needless to say
'because I'm just a sophisticated beggar living underneath your summer day


When CBS Records heard it they gave him a 1-off recording contract to record 'Come out Fighting Genghis Smith', a collection of his work to date including many tracks of the debut with a fuller production on some of the new songs to widen his appeal beyond the contemporary folk scene, they wanted to test his commercial appeal. Whether it was poor sales, or the prospect of working with one such an eccentric and underground character, I don't know, but they didn't ask him to make any more albums for them. It's still a mystery to me why Harper even did this album for a mainstream label. What's more he made most of his 70s albums with Harvest, a subsidiary of EMI. I'm not sure what EMI saw in him that CBS didn't or visa versa, the mystery works both ways.

Highgate Cemetery


Folkjokeopus

Image

1968's Folkjokeopus contained the 15 minute giant of a song "McGooghan's Blues", possibly his greatest work and one of my all time favourite songs/poems by anyone. But it's a funny album with half of it being the work of a genius and the other half the work of a fool. Tracks range from 10/10 to 5/10 if you are feeling generous.


Roy Harper - Mcgoohans Blues... a song about The Prisoner, which refers to all members s of the underground that are self aware





Nicky my child he stands there with the wind in his hair
Wondering whether the water the wind or the where
I fear that someday he might ask me if mine is the blame
And I've got no reply save to tell him it's all just a game
And Heather and I lay together and I was in love
She weighted up the gains and the losses and gave me the shove
The fear of mankind's untogetherness pounds in my heart
The deceit of my friends the betrayals of which I am part
And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see my two feet standing here questioning

And I'm just a social experiment tailored to size
I've tried out the national machine and the welfare surprise
I'm the rich man the poor man the peace man the war man the beast
The festive consumer who ends up consumed in the feast
And my five eyed promoter is clutching two birds in the bush
He's a thief he's as bad as the joker they're both in the rush
He's telling me Ghandi was handy and Jesus sold his ring
Dunno who to, God maybe....
And everyone knows that this dough's gonna make me the king

And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see my two feet standing here questioning

Meanwhile the ticket collectors are punching their holes
Into your memories your journeys and into your souls
Your life sentence starts and the judge hands you down a spare wig
Saying, Get out of that and goodbye old boy have a good gig.
And the town label makers stare down with their gallery eyes
And point with computer stained fingers each time you arise
To the rules and the codes and the system that keeps them in chains
Which is where they belong with no poems no love and no brains

And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see my two feet standing there questioning

Meanwhile the TV commercials are sweeping the day
Brainwashing innocent kids into thinking their way
The wet politicians and clergymen have much to say
Defending desires of the sheep they are leading astray
And Ma's favourite pop star is forcing a grin he's a smash
Obliging the soft-headed viewers to act just as flash
The village TV hooks its victims on give away cash
The addicts are numbers who serve to perpetuate trash

And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see my stupid poetry shuffleing

And the bankers and tycoons and hoarders of money and art
Full up with baubles and bibles and full of no heart
Who travel first class on a pleasure excursion to fame
Are the eyes that are guiding society's ludicrous aim
And the village is making its Sunday collection in church
The church wobbles 'twixt hell and heaven's crumbling perch
Unnoticed the money box loudly endorses the shame
As the world that Christ fought is supported by using his name

And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see my stupid poetry burbling

And the pin-striped sardine-cum-magician is packed in his train
Censoring all of the censorship filling his brain
He glares through his armour-plate vision and says"Hmm, insane";
The prisoner is taking his shoes off to walk in the rain
And the luminous green prima donna is sniffing the sky
She daren't tread the earth that she's smelling her birth was too high
Her bank balance castle is built on opinion and fear
Which is all she allows within three hundred miles of her ear

And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see my stupid poetry burbling

And I've seen all your pedestal values your good and your bad
If you really believe them your passing is going to be hard
And I've thought through our thought and I know that its blind silly season
Occurs when our reasoning is trying to fathom a reason
And if you really know it's all a joke but you're just putting me on
Well it's sure a good act that you've got 'because you never let on
But if all of that supersale overkill world is for real
Well there's nowhere to go kid so you might as well start to freewheel

And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see my two feet standing there burbling

And I had this dream in here same time as standing awake
These various visions rushed through as I giggled and quaked
The distant guns thunder my end and I duck for a while
Auntie Lily is handing me candy she chuckles I smile
And our village is where I was born and it's where I will die
And I'll never be able to leave it whatever I try
The ebb and the flow of the forces of life pass me by
Which is all that I'll know from my birth to my last gasping sigh

And O how the sea she roars with laughter
And howls with the dancing wind
To see the dying lying there obeying

My age and my time
The blood fire wine and rhyme
That fills my dream reminds me of an atom in a bubble on a wave
That held it's breath for one sweet second then was popped and disappeared
Into fruitful futilities meaningless meaning
Meaningless meaning

Under the toadstool lover down by the dream
Everything flowing over rainbows downstream
Silver the turning water flying away
I'll come to see you sooner I'm on my way
And there's a mirror that I'm looking straight through
And I get it
And there's a doorway that I'm ducking into
To forget it
But flashing just beyond the sky the shattering midnight gathers
And reminding me behind my mind the earth quakes the sun flakes flutter

Over the mountain fairground
Candy flies stay
Under the moonshine fountain
I'm on my way
Lemon tree blossom ladies
Poured my tea
After the blue sky breezes following me
There's a river that I'm making it with
And I know it
And I'm floating to I don't care where
I just go it
But flashing just beyond the sky the shattering midnight gathers
And reminding me behind my mind the earth quakes the sun flakes flutter

Daffodil April petal hiding the game
Forests of restless chessmen life is the same
Tides in the sand sun lover watching us dream
Covered in stars and clover rainbows downstream
And the question in the great big underneath is forever
And the fanfare that I'm forcing through my teeth answers "Never";
But the flashing just beyond the sky the shattering midnight gathers
And reminding me behind my mind the earth quakes the sun flakes flutter

The pumpkin coach and the rags approach and the wind is devouring the ashes


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:29 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830
Harper in his Prime... The 70s


Flat Baroque And Beserk (1970), 8.5/10
Stormcock (1971), 7/10
Lifemask (1973), 7/10
Valentine (1974), 10/10
Flashes From The Archives Of Oblivion (1974), 7.5/10
HQ (1975), 9/10
Bullinamingvase (1977), 10/10

Flat Baroque and Berserk

Image

1969's Flat Baroque and Berserk captured an ethereal sound which was achieved by using a wah-wah pedal on his acoustic guitar. It also marked the beginning of his relationship with EMI records with 8 of his early albums recorded at the Abbey Road Studios and released on EMI’s Harvest label. Harvest began in 1969 as a response to the growing emergence of ‘underground’ or ‘progressive music’. So, Harvest was in effect a 'leave them alone as long as the money comes in' label for EMI, given an autonomy from their corporate over lords that rarely happens these days.

"Embedding Denied"... well this is EMI... don't forget the full screen button... right click and open in another tab if you want to carry on reading this thread...

I Hate The White Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LFEjsiaQHg

How does it feel? / Don't you grieve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky3TFDATa6o

"You can feel bonified if you ride with the tide, but you know it's not real"


Another day / Tom Tiddlers Ground


Stormcock

Comprising 4 long tracks, I have never managed to get excited by 3 of them. The exception is the excellent last track, 'Me and My Woman' which stands head and shoulders above the rest.

Me and My Woman (Parts 1 and 2)



Valentine (1974)

Forbidden Fruit


For years I have felt uneasy about this song. If Harper's intention was to be outrageous and make the listener shuffle in their seat, or get up and leave, then he certainly succeeded. It's clearly a song about a paedophile grooming a 13 year old school girl, as seen through the eyes of the child molester, hanging around the school for his 13 year old victim. Its sweet and innocent delivery is like his seduction, designed to trick the sweet and innocent.


Flashes From The Archives Of Oblivion (Live), 1974

Male Chauvinist Pig Blues (from Valentine)



HQ, 1978

When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease


The Game


Bullinamingvase (1977)

One of those days in England


One of those days in England that you said could never end
As I was crashed out, living every chance
One of those days in England we've been saving up to spend
Buying rides on Mother Nature's funny belly dance

My love, it seems, so long away, since when we both together lay
And yet it's only yesterday, dreaming of tomorrow, my love, there's no today.
My love, my love

One of those days in England with the country going broke and Sunday's joint is cooking in my tree
One of those days in England chomping baked beans in my coke
Please tell me when it matters love, I might just wanna get out of bed to see

But until then my darling let's get down and make some fun
There's really nothing better we can do
One of those days in England and our love has just begun
Half the fun in falling is you don't care where it's to

My love, it seems, so long away
Since when we both, together, lay
And yet it's only yesterday
Dreaming of tomorrow,
My love, there's no today
My love, my love
Today, my love
Going to make my love to you
My love, to you
to you,
to you,
to you.


Cherishing the Lonesome


It's about hiring a prostitute


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:31 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830
October the twelfth

On October 12th 1966 Roy Harper asked 21 Questions. This was my first post on Doom-metal.Com. I remember, even today, how ignorant the responses were. They seem to come from kids with no idea about life. I guess that's the price you pay in letting the world overhear things intended for those that understand. Anyway here it is again, one of my favourite poems...


Why throw flowers on my grave when I'm dead?

Why paint pictures with the blood that I shed?

Why try to copy any word of what I said… when I hated you or when I was living?

Why do I waste time trying to create?

Why do I still try to communicate, when you do nothing except coagulate, making bad pretences of pretending?

Why do you just sit around counting the days?

Why do you act in so many fickle ways?

Why does it have to take your types to make this world rotate, when almost all of you are hardly breathing?

And who can tell me what religion is for?

And which idiot thinks that a religion is any more, than just another product of that same religious sore, that flows through time as through a wretching body?

How can you ban the bomb, without first you ban the war?

How can you ban the war, without first you ban the peace?

Why does someone talk of peace and someone else of war, when each one is a product of the other?

And how many immortals did you ever see?

And how many gods do you think there can be?

And how much leaning-post do you need, before you find the tree is dead and just about to fall upon you.

How do you go through living without seeing yourself?

And how can you see yourself by searching someone else? Keeping someone's nightmare of a place you labelled hell, not knowing how to live life without fearing.

You teach the children theatre games some easy applause, instead of teaching fact you feed them all on Santa Claus, slowly their poor minds are disillusioned by your laws. Is goodness hard to come by without lying?

Why do I sit here and sing you this song?

Why have I worried about people for so long?

I think you're all right and it's me that's all wrong

and I hated myself when I was living.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:05 pm 

Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 10:11 pm
Posts: 14
Location: Bolton, England
Respect where respect is due!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:48 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830
Kieronunsilence wrote:
Respect where respect is due!


Which is surely the greatest thing you can give an artist, and it's surely the greatest thing an artist can achieve.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:05 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830


How does it feel to be completely unreal
How does it feel to be a voter
How does it feel to be a voluntary heel
I wonder who's it is
I see you queuing up outside Saint Peter's gate,
You can feel bonafide if you ride with the tide
But it's not real

How does it feel to be out on your own
How does it feel to be thinking
How does it feel to be out on the run
With the mindless world at your heels
I wish I had no answers to put to you
because they got me so high tied I feel
like most of me has died
And it's real

And outside on the dragon
And inside in the cold
Mummy's on the bandwagon, daddy's just getting old
And through the blood spew heavens
The roar of lust complains:
Please let me in I have no sin, but you know I'm not real

And how does it feel to be the master's right hand nose
How does it feel to be lieutenant
How does it feel to be stood on someone's toes
With a leech bleeding you for rent,
When you say you want a bit more rank
You wanna be a big wheel
You can feel magnified if you hide in
that kind of pride... but you know it's not real

And how does it feel with a white flag in your fist
How does it feel to have two faces
How does it feel with your god strapped to your wrist
And him leading you such a chase
You got one set of words for him,
and you got another for me
You're gonna feel mystified when you're identified
Don't worry kid it's not real

And outside on the dragon
And inside in the cold
Mummy's on the bandwagon, daddy's just getting old
And through the blood spew heavens
The roar of lust complains:
Please let me in I have no sin, but you know I'm not real

And through the blood spew heavens
The roar of lust complains:
Please let me in I have no sin, but you know I'm not real


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:55 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830










Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:59 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830






Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:24 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830
From The Sophisticated Beggar, 1966

Girlie, 1966


"Oh Girlie with your brown eyes and your long flowing hair
A lantern shining through your lips, slipping through my stare"


Blackpool


Legend & October 12th


"The maps in the tube train will tell you where you're going
They'll also tell you everything worth knowing"


From 3:44
"Why throw flowers on my grave when I'm dead?
Why paint pictures with the blood that I shed?
Why try to copy any word of what I said… when I hated you or when I was living?
Why do I waste time trying to create?
Why do I still try to communicate, when you do nothing except coagulate, making bad pretences of pretending?
Why do you just sit around counting the days?
Why do you act in so many fickle ways?
Why does it have to take your types to make this world rotate, when almost all of you are hardly breathing?
And who can tell me what religion is for?
And which idiot thinks that a religion is any more, than just another product of that same religious sore, that flows through time as through a wretching body?
How can you ban the bomb, without first you ban the war?
How can you ban the war, without first you ban the peace?
Why does someone talk of peace and someone else of war, when each one is a product of the other?
And how many immortals did you ever see?
And how many gods do you think there can be?
And how much leaning-post do you need, before you find the tree is dead and just about to fall upon you.
How do you go through living without seeing yourself?
And how can you see yourself by searching someone else? Keeping someone's nightmare of a place you labelled hell, not knowing how to live life without fearing.
You teach the children theatre games some easy applause, instead of teaching fact you feed them all on Santa Claus, slowly their poor minds are disillusioned by your laws. Is goodness hard to come by without lying?
Why do I sit here and sing you this song?
Why have I worried about people for so long?
I think you're all right and it's me that's all wrong
and I hated myself when I was living"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:34 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830
Old time religion, but it's what the underground was built on.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Roy Harper
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:46 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:34 am
Posts: 3830
She offers me to bed,, and tea...



I loved you a long time ago you know


Just another day


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 1 hour


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group